Next Steps In the Fight for our Family

December 31, 2013

My Christmas break has been filled with several phone calls, meetings with doctors, discussion, and thought.

After meeting with our RE at OHSU (who was sure this whole thing was a fluke and wanted me to try again), we met with our maternal fetal specialist who took care of us while losing J and B. 

He doesn't think this was a fluke at all.  Although there is no "crystal ball" his best assumption is that I have some form of an incompetent cervix.  This diagnosis shocked me as I thought IC was when your cervix shortens super quick, dilates, and you deliver within hours.  He explained that I might have like a "twitching" cervix-that perhaps it open and closed just enough to let an infection get in...which eventually broke Brinly's sac, which lead to her falling out and things being REALLY open, which let more infection get in that eventually spread to Jude's placenta.  AH. 

None of the doctor's are saying "don't try again" but he was the only one that brought up surrogacy as something to consider, simply because its taking my body out of the factor.  He also warned against ever transferring 2 embryos since we know my body didn't respond well with twins-however, he doesn't think the twins caused the pPROM since it was still so early in the game.  This creates somewhat of a complex because although I don't want to get pregnant with twins again, transferring just 1 embryo seems insane since only 2 out of my SEVEN actually made it past the 12 week mark.  For those that have done IVF you know it's draining and long and emotional and the idea of plopping in 1 little embryo at a time sounds awful.  Anyway...

All this to say, IF I EVER manage to get pregnant on my own, they will give me a cerclage at 12 weeks (stitch my cervix closed) in hopes of keeping out infection/it opening randomly and then give my progesterone shots weekly throughout pregnancy.  That plan supposedly reduces my chances of this happening again.  Scary, I'm not going to lie. 

As of now, Darren and I are thinking for the next few months we might try the "old fashion way" with a twist (drum roll please).  Ok, fine, the twist is basically we try on our own but with both of us on medicine.  All my life I knew I didn't ovulate so when the time came to try to get pregnant, we jumped into IUI's immediately.  For those that have been following awhile, although we did IUIs Darren was never on meds himself to help with his counts-several of the IUIs were wasted because I wasn't monitored, the counts were low, I had gotten a false ovulation surge, etc. 

After we gave up on IUIs Dar got a second opinion and they put him on oral tablets and within a couple months they say improvements-at this point we had already paid for IVF and I wasn't going to stop going after those.  Currently we feel like it might be a good idea to let my body chill out a bit (I've delivered 2 babies in the last 6 and 8 weeks), and IN THEORY, I ovulate on femera, his clomid pulls his counts into the normal range-we might be able to conceive kind of normally.  I'm sure that if a few months pass and it looks like we are headed to the land of nowhere, we will consider other options.  Sigh.

I hate the fact that J and B could have been most likely saved if we had known my lame cervix was crappy, but there is really no way of knowing till after the fact.  I'm thankful there is some explanation other than "it was random, it's a freak thing" because there really is no "plan" for a future random/freak thing.  One day at a time. 

All I know is our desire to have a child has only increased.  The fights not over.  We are moving forward.

28 comments:

  1. It sounds like you received a lot of information. That is very overwhelming to hear, but I agree that it is better to have answers verses its a "freak" occurance. Sounds like you have a great plan in place for the next few months and I will continue to keep you in my thoughts.

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  2. Always thinking and praying for you guys! You are amazing and strong and we are always rooting for you! xo

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  3. I hear ya. I hate the diagnosis of "bad luck". I feel like there is no fighting luck. I'm pulling for you guys and with 4 little angels looking out for you, I'm praying for a miracle. XOXO

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  4. I agree that it sounds like you have received a lot of information. Praying that you receive clarity and peace over the next few months. Your family is in our thoughts daily!

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  5. Thinking about you!! Glad you are moving forward!!!

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  6. You are such an inspiration, Holly. I'm glad you have gotten some answers and have a plan. Continued prayers coming your way.

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  7. I'm so glad to read you are still planning to move forward. I also did unmonitored IUIs with Femara and got false positives. It is frustrating. You are such a strong woman. You will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers. You are truly an inspiration. I pray this new plan will work for you and your husband.

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  8. I am happy for you that you are moving forward; your perseverance is inspiring. I pray that 2014 will be your year for a take home baby :)

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  9. I'm glad you got answers to help you heal and move forward. Praying that these next couple months give u the miracle you deserve.

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  10. After my loss, I discovered that having an answer was both comforting and tormenting. I'm glad you have a plan for moving forward. Praying for you both.

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  11. I'm glad you have a plan and I wish you luck.

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  12. Praying tons for you guys...so glad to see this update...<3

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  13. The fight is most definitely not over. Glad to see that you have a plan. I'll be sending you lots of love and good vibes!! xoxo

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  14. Oh, I hope this works for you! It's good to have some answers and a plan. Best of luck!!

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  15. Hi there! I have been following your journey for a few months now. I am so incredibly sorry for the loss of your sweet babies. I also went through many infertility treatments over the last 5 years, so I can relate to the frustrations, emotions and thoughts that you may be having. I got pregnant via IFV with a baby girl and delivered her at 23 weeks 5 days. She lived for 12 hours before we decided to take her off of life support. It was so difficult to understand why things like this happen. I had no warning signs that she was going to be born so early. Come to find out, I had an incompetent cervix. We knew we had to press on because we wanted a family, but it was scary to get pregnant after a loss. I had a cerclage for my next two pregnancies and was monitored very closely while pregnant. I also took Makena shots weekly starting at week 16. It wasn't easy and there were times where I had to heavily rely on my faith to get through...but now I have two beautiful boys. I only tell you this because there is hope! The paths we walk down sometimes are filled with heartache and uncertainty, but I pray that there is a bright future ahead for you. And you will definitely be a better mother because of all you have gone through. I check your blog regularly for updates. If you ever have any questions about my experience with a cerclage and pregnancy after a loss I'd be happy to talk. You can email me at eemessm@hotmail.com . Prayers coming your way often! ~Erin

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  16. I read this in my devotional (Streams in the Desert) today, and kept thinking about you.

    Still upward be your onward course:
    For this I pray today;
    Still upward as the years go by,
    And seasons pass away.

    Still upward in this coming year,
    Your path is all untried;
    Still upward may you journey on,
    Close by your Savior's side.

    Still upward although sorrow come,
    And trials crush your heart;
    Still upward may they draw your soul,
    With Christ to walk apart.

    Still upward till the day shall break,
    And shadows all have flown;
    Still upward till in Heaven you wake,
    And stand before the throne.

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  17. When I first read your story I thought of IC (I also have a shiity cervix) Please look into a transabdominal cerclage. It is a permanent cerclage and is much more effective than a vaginal cerclage. It took me five years to get pregnant the first time. Beause of IC I lost Evie at 20.6:( We then had a failed adoption and the next month a BFP. I wasn't willing to risk it with a vaginal cerclage so we drove from Oklahoma to Chicago and Dr.Haney (a leader in placement of TAC"s placed my TAC at 10 weeks. My rainbow is just over a year now. Love & hugs!

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    1. You can also email Dr.Haney and he will set up a free consult! He is amazing!

      http://www.uchospitals.edu/physicians/arthur-haney.html

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  18. I'm glad your MFM doesn't just brush it off as a fluke. Even though there may be things doctors cannot explain, as a patient this is so frustrating. We received the strong single-embryo-transfer-only recommendation, too. I'm hoping you can find a way to move on that you are at peace with. On-your-own-with-meds sounds like a good way to get started. Thinking of you.

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  19. So glad to see you have fight left in you. I have heard great things about cerclage, and I think it's great you have a plan to do it as a preventative measure the next time you get pregnant....which I hope is very soon! I think you could absolutely get pregnant trying with TI and pills. Fertility treatments are such a crapshoot anyways. Plenty of women get pregnant on their own after IVF has failed, so why not? Routing for you guys!

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  20. Saying prayers for you guys as you move to these next cycles. Always thinking about you.

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  21. I thought of you when I read this. Maybe you've seen it already, but I think it's amazing. Thinking about you guys. <3 http://lemmonythings.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/god-will-give-you-more-than-you-can-handle-i-guarantee-it/

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  22. So, so glad that you are continuing the fight. I expected nothing less from you! Don't give up hope, Holly. Though your path to becoming a mother has been fraught with challenges and heartache, I do believe that you will get there. You. Will. Be. A. Mother.

    Very glad to hear that your doctor was able to come up with an explanation for what he thinks happened with the twins. Very glad, because like you said, an explanation also means a gameplan for trying again. As scary as it may be. Praying for you and Darren as you begin this next chapter in your journey.

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  23. I would look into a TAC. The very same thing happened to me 8 months ago. It took me forever to get pregnant 6 years. Before marriage I was diagnosed with PCOS I was 17. Married at 21 and tried naturally for a year then on to clomid, Femara, provera, fsh shots, IUI's and then finally IVF. We got pregnant with twins and I lost them at 18 weeks. MFM not sure but thinks it could be IC. They want to do a similar plan as yours to place a TVC at 12-13 weeks before the cervix starts to change and then give me P17 shots the entire pregnancy. I go back and forth between thinking of surrogacy and getting a TAC placed instead of a TVC. I really would like to have the TAC placed instead of a TVC. I would look into these three items and discuss them with you MFM(TVCIC/TVC/TAC). Usually they wont do a TAC unless you have had more than two losses, but like you I cant imagine that happening again to us. So I have been advocating on my own looking at other options. Before I do a transfer they only want me to transfer one back and it scares me because of the time and money that we put in and the odds, but if it helps me bring home my rainbow baby I am more willing to do it. I wish you the best and pray and hope for your rainbow baby. God Bless you and your babies and husband. You are so strong and so amazing!

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  24. May I ask what exactly Darren was prescribed? My re said there was nothing able to increase levels with my husband.

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  25. I'm just a fellow Christian mom, but I wanted to let you know I am continuing to pray for you and your husband and your sweet angels in heaven. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.

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  26. How much did clomid raise your husbands counts? We are in a similar situation :(

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